Just wanted to take a minute or two to get something off my chest regarding the growing trend in Hollyweird to take certain established roles, and re-cast them so as to make them more ethnically diverse.
As a quick dislaimer, I just want to put it out there that I am not a racist.
I hate everyone equally regardless of color or religion.
So there;)
Anyhoo,
What set this all off for me, was getting into a debate with Dan Slott. You know, the guy who writes the Amazing Spider-Man and Silver Surfer for Marvel Comics.
So I was commenting along with some others about the sheer redonkulousness of casting well-known characters who just happen to be white(since that's what color they happened to be when they were made) with more ethinically diverse actors.
Case in point, Jamie Foxx cast as Electro, or hell the latest Annie remake, but with mostly black leads.
Again. not trying to sound racist, but why?
So that movie studios can point to these remakes in order prove to the public that they're being socially progressive by the diverse casting?
Isn't that creating racial problems where there isn't one if race doesn't matter?
Anyways, here's a sample of how Slott feels, and of course he, like anyone, is entitled to their own opinion.
Write down 10 words to describe Peter Parker.
"White" shouldn't be in there.
Or the first 100.
Or thousand.
If it is, you don't get him.
And after 75 years of Marvel comics... there'll still be plenty of white characters to go around no matter what. Honest. :-D
My part of the bet: That's when I'd move on. Because there's some level of stupid that's just not worth the time to argue w/. And that's it.
Had a bet w/ someone when the stupid-levels would rise high enough for someone to go here. RT @**** @DanSlott African people can be white.
By that logic Dean Cain (who's part Japanese) already has. :-) RT @Kingpin5050 @DanSlott So by that logic Will Smith could play Superman.
I keep hearing "Fair's fair..." &
"Why not switch POC characters to white ones?"
Because "Fair is NOT fair".
Here: http://timemachineyeah.tumblr.com/post/58648290519/this-is-a-jar-full-of-major-characters …
This is all YOUR fault. We should only do B&W comics from now on. :-P RT @SotoColor @DanSlott are you screaming into wind again?
.@thesuppertest @f8c1b37cb9224b0 Weak. There's a dif between being colored 1 way in the comics & it being an integral part of his character.
Dan Slott retweeted
@DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 It is clearly established in Peter Parker's origins that he was a nerdy white kid from New York.
- @DanSlott @thesuppertest Would it be cool to you if this applied to someone like Superman or the Lone Ranger?
- @f8c1b37cb9224b0 @thesuppertest Did casting Dean Cain (who was part Japanese) destroy Superman for all time? Did you survive that as a fan?
- @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 dean Cain looked like the classic Superman. That part seems salient. Can Mark Walberg play Luke Cage?
- @thesuppertest @f8c1b37cb9224b0 ...is clearly established in their origins and core stories as elements that help define who they are and...
- @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 It is clearly established in Peter Parker's origins that he was a nerdy white kid from New York.
- @thesuppertest @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 ' there is peter parker and a character names miles who is from a different marvel universe'
- @CreeperDude720 @f8c1b37cb9224b0 Regardless, Jackson has been wonderful as Fury.
- @CreeperDude720 @f8c1b37cb9224b0 whether Fury in the MU also gets drawn like Jackson in future iterations remains to be seen.
- @CreeperDude720 @f8c1b37cb9224b0 just a heads up. The idea to make Fury Sam Jackson gets its birth in "the Ultimates" and pre-dates MCU.
- @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 ...who was, y'know, a black guy.
- @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 you keep bringing up MCU Fury, but that Fury is obviously based more on Ultimate Fury rather than 616 Fury...
- @f8c1b37cb9224b0 @thesuppertest The comics version of Nick Fury was black before the MCU version, which is why Samuel L Jackson was chosen
- @SidizenKane @thesuppertest @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 id rake childish gambino for spiderman! All day, everyday. He fits the nerdy type.
- @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 @thesuppertest The best actor already had the job. No need to recast at all.
- @thesuppertest @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 I do have to call it a day, but I wouldn't mind picking this up another time since it's been civil
- . @thesuppertest @DanSlott @f8c1b37cb9224b0 -this is not the case, and so we're not talking about this issue in vacuum. We can't afford to.
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JAPSPEPORJ FENWAY I know, a lot to sift through, but yeah him and I definitely debated the race issue there for a bit.
He even posted this link to further back up his opinion:
http://timemachineyeah.tumblr.com/post/58648290519/this-is-a-jar-full-of-major-characters
Basically that site just talks about how race shouldn't matter.
Anyways, my main gripe went from that to the issue of Nick Fury.
I explained that I felt it was bullshit that the only Nick Fury fans will soon remember is the Sam L one.
Hey, I'll be the first one to admit how cool Sam L Fury is. He's the shit. He is.
But due to that popularity from the movies, it's crossed over into the comics with the Original Sin taking the Lee/Kirby version off the board.....possibly for decades?
Slott didn't have a rebutal for that, which I guess I understand, since he's employed by the same company responsible for said act.
But c'mon on. Own that shit and toe the line to be that company man or else they fire your as if you say one negative thing against them.
Gotta' stay employed. Gotta' do it I suppose.
I will end that particulat gripe with a possible solution.
Maybe a possinle explanation for the descripencies.
I believe the same guy that caused all this fuss, already solved it...sort of.
Back in late-2001, Millar wrote Ultimate X-Men#10, which introduced the world to another Nick Fury separate from the already established Sam L . Fury one.
In this story, Nick Fury really could've been any color since his the constant mention of his image inducer was prevalant throughout his enitre appearence.
The whole thing casts doubt on who exactly the real Fury is then if there's stories of him being black in one mention, and then maybe asian the next.
By keeping things ambigious, you bring back the mystery-spy element that Fury originally embodied.
The bad news is usng the dreaded reboot word, even if its a soft reboot.
Just saying....
After Secret Wars, I believe Marvel just might....just might, use the ambigious angle to explain why Fury is both white and black in the comics, but mostly black in the movies.
I know that Brevoort and several other Marvel officials swear up and down the two universes won't crossover and replace the current comic continuity.
I could be wrong.
I will say this about Spider-Man being turned into another race. .
Go for it. I think Miles Morales is a fresh take on the updated Spider-Man for the nw milininium.
That being said, I still want Peter Parker as Spider-Man. I think we wll do.
And that's why, love or hate it, the Spider-Verse concept helps with all that, ensuring everyone gets what they want.
You present a monlthly anthology about the different Spiders of the multiverse.
Doesn't have to be particularly a big event, just focusing on a few diffeent Spider-Men or Women.
See Mr. Slott. You helped give us all on out on that one too;)
Yes the very idea of a white version of Luke Cage is noth hilarious and redonkulous...that's kinda' the whole point right?
Same reason why trying to shoe-horn in racial diversity where it didn't need to be shoe-horned in.
Two other things that I'm curious to see what Mr. Slott has to think about marvel all but admitting to out-right banning the X-Men and Fanstastic Four brands, as far as new material goes;
1).There's a well-known freeze on the further production of new materil for the Fantastic Four all FF-related characters, and limited freezes on the X-Men. Like say, no comics or merchansing support of the recent FOX X-Men movie.
2). Why marvel's really retconning the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's orgins in favor of the new Avenger's movie version origin., and whther or not he believes all these changes
Smells like something lawsuit-worthy is brewing on the horizon.
Smells kind of like why DC gave Superman a new costume and broker up Lois and Clark.
Lawsuit.
As in when the heirs of Segel and Shuster were still battling DC in court.
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Give me your thoughs on all this. Go for it. I don't care if we agree or not, I wanna' know what you think.
