tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post5925552551884993428..comments2024-03-01T03:46:32.550-05:00Comments on Mr. Morbid's House of Fuckery: Top 5: Favorite Comic Reboots of all timeMr. Morbid's House Of Funhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-72745732223737070722014-10-29T10:21:24.595-04:002014-10-29T10:21:24.595-04:00Will Cyclops ever be single? Is he a love and rela...Will Cyclops ever be single? Is he a love and relationship addict? If so, send him to a SLAA meeting might be a more interesting story than the dredge of him and Emma. I didn't care for Morrison's run, or for the leather costumes. If I want to look at boring realism I'll watch any of the X-Men films. When I read a comic book I want it to look like a comic book. Not bland advertising. Also killing Jean Grey shouldn't count as a reboot since it already happened.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735939952379359468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-12554103723384285442013-09-20T17:32:11.654-04:002013-09-20T17:32:11.654-04:00@Dan: It was all probably in the way Mysterio was ...@Dan: It was all probably in the way Mysterio was "killed"/jobbed out in the end. It didn't bother me, as Mysterio seemed like a good foil for DD and it's not like they really ever mixed it up before.<br /><br />I hear ya on that other point Dan. Same here:)<br />But my hopes, well wishes and prayers will continue to go out to you and your mum. Hang in there buddy:)Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-1966122848663741732013-09-20T07:04:40.372-04:002013-09-20T07:04:40.372-04:00Thanks Dale and King, I actually have gone back an...Thanks Dale and King, I actually have gone back and re-read Guardian angel after writing about it here and it still stacks up. I'm a huge fan of all the early Spidey villains too, I just don't get why Riddler is rebirthed in Hush, and everyone claps, yet Mysterio has his moment in the sun in a similar fashion, and just as many people booed as they did applaud. Crazy stuff. When you have Mephisto stating he's giving the bowl head a special seat, you gotta give Quentin his props!<br /><br />As for Mum - her op is this Monday so heading back home till then. I'm okay. Never been 100% since the day I was born, so no sense starting now huh? :) Thanks fer checkin mr!IADWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339648236279349271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-74345733295535762482013-09-16T15:53:36.622-04:002013-09-16T15:53:36.622-04:00@Gary: I'll have to think a good bit about tha...@Gary: I'll have to think a good bit about that list, but yeah the post-zero titles were hit and miss, JLA included. I'll throw Primal Forces in there as well, which kinda soft revamped Red Tornado with Claw the unconquered, Dr. Mist, and Jack O Lantern.<br /><br />But yeah, I'm open to suggestions.Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-50908443945842467412013-09-16T15:38:19.562-04:002013-09-16T15:38:19.562-04:00Which ones suck? How about the post-Zero Hour Just...Which ones suck? How about the post-Zero Hour Justice League America by Gerard Jones. I loved his stuff on Green Lantern (when he was writing just about <b>every</b> Lantern title) and even on Justice League Europe but the JLA after Zero Hour...<br /><br />Nuklon whining about Fire not liking him; Fire fawning after the new Ice; Metamorpho and Crimson Fox; the Yazz; and... and... <a href="http://www.comicvine.com/equinox/4005-79806/" rel="nofollow">Equinox</a>!Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-42568121655384231872013-09-16T12:46:59.117-04:002013-09-16T12:46:59.117-04:00@Dan: Thx mate, how've you been since you mom ...@Dan: Thx mate, how've you been since you mom found out? Good I hope.<br /><br />Nice suggestions there as well. I dug Kevin Smith's run on DD and GA as well. But hate him having had Batman piss himself. Just didn't belong there even though I know what he tried to do by showing Batman off as more human. Just, no Kev. And he was admittedly high when he wrote those, so there you go.<br /><br />Johns did reboot the Rogues for sure, and just continued Wally's journey as an adult and hero.<br /><br />@Karl: I immensely enjoyed Byrne's FF run too. I'm sure he could've stayed longer, but yeah, his work on the FF, restoring them to their silver age potential was indeed just what the doctor ordered. That single Doom issue alone is worth taking a peek at that run.<br /><br />2nd only to Stan and Jack? I'm sure fans of Waid/Wieringo might agree/disagree.<br /><br />Never read Giffen/Levitz' run on Legion, but yeah I hear it was damn good for the time.<br /><br />Thx for stopping by, and adding your two bits there Karl:)<br /><br />@King: Nice list. And even better suggestion. See, you guys can definitely help me out with this shit. I might just do that. Now which reboots really suck?<br /><br />Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-44209853387408492032013-09-15T14:16:57.616-04:002013-09-15T14:16:57.616-04:00As much as I adore his Fantastic Four tenure, John...As much as I adore his Fantastic Four tenure, John Byrne for all the hype when he got the gig really did have a shit run on Wonder Woman - I could fill a book on the debacle he made of it.karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-32845591495854144662013-09-14T15:35:43.987-04:002013-09-14T15:35:43.987-04:00@Dan W -For sure! His DareDevil run blew my mind (...@Dan W -For sure! His DareDevil run blew my mind (as a HUGE fan of Spidey's rogues gallery). <br />I really liked Smith's Green Arrow run as well! And fuck the "BatGOD" fanboys- I liked the Batman where he pissed himself too.<br />Shit- Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man needs to get some love on this page!<br />Oooo- and Karl reminded me of John Byrne's Wonder Woman. Not the best thing ever- but it definitely got me buying the book. <br /><br />You know- all this love going around for all these books- Mr. Morbid's House of Fun needs a Top Five WORST Reboots of All Time list next week!!!The King of Thessalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406771819941242204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-65984505253843569682013-09-14T14:51:13.650-04:002013-09-14T14:51:13.650-04:00[Whew!]
Finally finished. I had to edit a lot afte...[Whew!]<br />Finally finished. I had to edit a lot after Id forgotten so much of what I wanted to write [after three attempts that failed]; haven't put in so much effort to concentrate since the time years ago I got blown three times in one night.<br />[or was it four...].karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-10360129980188727032013-09-14T14:47:14.874-04:002013-09-14T14:47:14.874-04:00Paul Levitz and Keith Giffen's LEGION OF SUPER...Paul Levitz and Keith Giffen's LEGION OF SUPER HEROES.<br />My second fave book after the FF, and in much the same vein it went thru bad times in the late 70s early 80s, just another by-product of the Superman mythos.<br />With Giffen working closely as co-plotter, Levitz gave us the following;<br />futuristic tech like holographic monitors [only Star Wars had done it at that point] <br />windowless buildings [far more hi-tech than it sounds], floating tables and chairs<br />realistic alien races like the G'il Dishpan water teleporters and the Hyrkanians<br />individual looks for each Legionnaire <br />vastly improved villains like Computo and The Legion of Super-Villains<br />one-off 'day in the life' secret background issues for individual members, with newly written origins, new plots uncovered and bad continuity retconned. <br />Legion secrets; the mystery of Sensor Girl, two members had an affair, one was kidnapped and replaced by a double, and five Legionnaires were involved in a conspiracy to destroy the Time Trapper. Levitz wasn't afraid to kill off Karate Kid, break up long-established couples, marry others, give us the books first lesbian relationship with Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet and introduce a black Invisible Kid. He also wrote the most subversive plot ever; a five year sub-plot where Universo secretly took over the United Planets. Fans had to trawl thru years of intricate detail to find it out.<br />Then there was THAT storyline, which catapulted the book to a best-seller and established it as a cult favourite...<br />THE GREAT DARKNESS SAGA!<br />DCs most fearsome villain, and a cast of thousands, literally. Culminating in the most shit-yourself-to-die cliffhanger EVER...Darkseid swaps the planet Daxam for a yellow sun, and sends thousands and thousands of mind-controlled Daxamites each with the power of Superman on a mission thru space to destroy the United Plantes. Then a year later, Darkseid's curse was the books second biggest surprise, a revelation that fitted in perfectly with LSH continuity.<br /><br />THE GREAT DARKNESS SAGA!<br />Incredible.karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-21269838417350238072013-09-14T14:16:43.729-04:002013-09-14T14:16:43.729-04:00George Perez's WONDER WOMAN
The book never sol...George Perez's WONDER WOMAN<br />The book never sold well, and WW is a notoriously difficult character to write for - until Perez came on board after the reboot of issue one.<br />With his unique eye for detail, he spent months reading Greek and Roman art books to give us authentic Greek armor, Greek architecture...the works. But his writing was superb; we had a compassionate, relatable and approachable Diana who resonated with the readers, and her supporting cast rivalled Peter Parker's.<br />We had a racially diverse Amazon nation and storylines which ran the gamut of emotion; romance, domestic abuse, drug use, teenage suicide [a main problem in American culture at the time] and issues that focused on character building instead of just action. One issue was all text.<br />In his 61 issue run George redefined the WW character so nowadays many think of his version as the DEFINITIVE version; all are measured by his standard. Even his final issue was a love letter of sorts to the fans for their loyalty and to Diana herself, who became real to many readers.karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-25138798304619748102013-09-14T14:00:58.903-04:002013-09-14T14:00:58.903-04:00John Byrne's FANTASTIC FOUR.
My all time favou...John Byrne's FANTASTIC FOUR.<br />My all time favourite book, it had lean times in the late 70s early 80...it looked old, stale and redundant. Then Byrne took over as writer and artist. He brought the book in his own words 'back to basics' he gave us a tough Thing who shook off his lovable Fozzie Bear impression and best of all gave us a Sue Richards whose power was vastly increased, making her an equal member of the team, and changing her name for a more mature edge.<br />He took Reed and Sue from suburbia to Hell, the Inhumans up to the Moon, and sent the FF on a long sojourn and tribute to Dr. Who into the Negative Zone, gave us a new take on their costume design and most of all made Doctor Doom a fearsome villain and number one threat once again, after spending the Seventies as a pantomime villain.<br />His stories rocked; he gave us a more mature Human Torch, tragedy for Sue and Reed, a cosmic ethos for Galactus and helped us finally like the She-Hulk after she had become a sad joke.<br />We saw a possible future for Kang [Reed Richards's other brother?!?] and stirred the shit big time amongst the team when he had the Torch fall in love with The Thing's girlfriend, a feud which ran for years.<br />We got a sideways issue, a real-time issue, a split-screen issue, and a real sense the comic was moving forward after the longest hiatus. <br />Many feel Byrne was the books second best creator after the dual team of Lee and Kirby.karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-11860883217293132812013-09-14T13:45:28.297-04:002013-09-14T13:45:28.297-04:00Balls. I'll try again.
I agreed with EVERYTHIN...Balls. I'll try again.<br />I agreed with EVERYTHING you said Dale -absolutely EVERYTHING. I thought the JLA and Avengers were all washed up and nothing more could be written for them in the 90s but these soft reboots were just what the comic fan ordered.<br />I posted a LONG piece about three books which had successful revivals and several times it wouldn't post[!]. So I'll do them in three segments [I think I typed too much and exceeded the maximum number of words on a post or summat, I dunno].<br />So...karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-74146090002209228442013-09-14T01:49:34.629-04:002013-09-14T01:49:34.629-04:00This is a great list Mr D! I loved Grant's X-...This is a great list Mr D! I loved Grant's X-Men right from the first page. Cyke telling Wolverine he can probably stop doing that now was a great tongue in cheek way of saying the x-books were hopping off the merry go round they had been on for years. To bad so much of the ground he made has been reversed. He made me like Emma as a character, and I never thought I would. He also wrote a great Beast.<br /><br />K&B's Avengers is one of the greatest runs on any title ever. It definitely sits alongside the JSA work mentioned in this comments thread and Grants JLA with me.<br /><br />Without just adding 'Me too' to the other ideas in this list, I'd add Kevin Smith on Daredevil for me, Geoff Johns over Wally on Flash - not really a revamp for the Hero, but it was for the Rogues, and yeah Stormwatch turning into The Authority was wicked in all ways right.<br /><br />Plus Green Arrow year one by Jock. That book is amazing visually and narratively and doesn't get the press it should. IADWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339648236279349271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-35720157116765189062013-09-13T17:55:13.199-04:002013-09-13T17:55:13.199-04:00@Gary: FUCK YEAH! on the JSA stuff- those books we...@Gary: FUCK YEAH! on the JSA stuff- those books were awesome! -Forgot about that. Bill Willingham's run was pretty good too.The King of Thessalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406771819941242204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-25639264928170376532013-09-13T17:47:20.570-04:002013-09-13T17:47:20.570-04:00Nice, nice... I like SOME of those, but I admit t...Nice, nice... I like SOME of those, but I admit they are all seminal. I have a somewhat different list:<br /><br />1.) Peter Milligan and Mike Allred's X-Force/X Statix -Damn thing is a masterpiece!<br />2.) John Byrne's Man of Steel -Way better than that one movie of the same name. ;)<br />3.) J. Michael Straczynski and<br />Gary Frank's Squadron Supreme: Supreme Power -"Fine, I just won't finish Rising Stars for you yet- so check THIS shit out!"<br />4.) John Arcudi and Francisco Ruiz Velasco's "Fight Club" Thunderbolts -I don't care what anyone says: This was awesome!<br />5.) Erik Larsen's Savage Dragon -I mean- he rebooted his own damn book. Shit was crazy.The King of Thessalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406771819941242204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-79477911617890851682013-09-13T15:55:18.178-04:002013-09-13T15:55:18.178-04:00@Gary: Good ones, and ones like the Hawkman one I ...@Gary: Good ones, and ones like the Hawkman one I should've mentioned. Johns if nothing else, saved the pre-nu52 reboot Hawkman and the JSA. <br /><br />I totally agree with you on FC. I don't know what the fuck Morrison was thinking, but yeah other than Barry returning and Bruce "Dying", it was a waste a mini. Again. good to great concepts, but yeah, very poor follow through. Unlike his first take on a Darkseid won world during his JLA run.<br /><br />@Karl: ? Keep trying chap;)Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-71429277894475370822013-09-13T13:47:49.662-04:002013-09-13T13:47:49.662-04:00I tried to post a BIG post on this last night but ... I tried to post a BIG post on this last night but for somereason it didn't get published - Ill try again later!karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-87245828000102921022013-09-13T03:23:47.600-04:002013-09-13T03:23:47.600-04:00Favourite reboot? Crisis is probably my favourite ...Favourite reboot? Crisis is probably my favourite - that and Watchmen are the only Absolute Editions that I've ever bought.<br /><br />I also liked James Robinson and David Goyer's reintroduction of the JSA and, later in that series, Geoff Johns's intelligent reworking of Hawkman's origins. He threw out all the crap, kept the good stuff and made it all work, something that hadn't been done for years.<br /><br />As to Morrison... he has fantastically huge ideas but in some (not all) he doesn't really seem to deliver a satisfying pay-off. Final Crisis is a case in point: the Day Evil Won is a great concept; Darkseid taking over the Earth is great; but then, right at the end and almost from nowhere, Morrison pulls out the real bad guy as a vampiric Monitor and it was all about him from the start, honest...<br /><br />Great idea, just a weak ending.<br /><br />Other stuff by him (JLA, Animal Man, Dare) I really like; some I just find disappointing.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-45295421896362101182013-09-12T19:41:35.243-04:002013-09-12T19:41:35.243-04:00I was surprised that was the only part that stayed...I was surprised that was the only part that stayed too. It just seems so...off. But I think writers and artists really love doing Emma. Randomnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216600316804854172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-1597187194274876542013-09-12T19:38:06.190-04:002013-09-12T19:38:06.190-04:00I don't think the guys at DC at the moment. I...I don't think the guys at DC at the moment. If they love Dick, it's in a pretty sadistic way. Randomnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216600316804854172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-63196587571783118382013-09-12T19:21:52.574-04:002013-09-12T19:21:52.574-04:00@Random: I don't care for the pairing either. ...@Random: I don't care for the pairing either. She's just not his type at all. But at least it freshened things up like I needed to.<br />I just didn't think that'd be the only thing from Morrison's run to stick. People at Marvel are weird.<br /><br />Yeah, you can never go wrong with any book with Wolfman/Perez on the front.<br />And of course you love Dick, who doesn't?;0Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-65791924775786151502013-09-12T18:28:05.092-04:002013-09-12T18:28:05.092-04:00I do like Morrison, and appreciate greatly what he...I do like Morrison, and appreciate greatly what he did for X-Men, don't even mind that he killed off Jean. Again. But I absolutely, without caveat, HATE the Emma Frost/Cyclops pairing. Despise it. Have trouble looking at a scene with the two of them in it. <br />I suppose even creating a response that visceral is something of a win for a writer. And I know she's got her fans out there. I'm just not one of them. <br />Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing is one of my absolute favorites, and one of my first introductions in the realm of *duh duh duh* MATURE COMICS. (I'm not sure Dad realized I was reading them) But as great as he is, as great as Morrison is, Wolfman and Perez are the two names I still look for on any comic in a bin. For a reason. (And no, Dale, it's not because they wrote my favorite Dick, get your mind out of the gutter.)Randomnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216600316804854172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-75976682226156045282013-09-12T16:18:00.148-04:002013-09-12T16:18:00.148-04:00Gary: What's up man? Thanks for stopping by? D...Gary: What's up man? Thanks for stopping by? Do you have a favorite character revamp/reboot?<br />And not Morrison's biggest fan? How come?Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37809963.post-23918383010200581042013-09-12T16:11:15.351-04:002013-09-12T16:11:15.351-04:00Totally agree with Morrison's JLA run (and I&#...Totally agree with Morrison's JLA run (and I'm not his biggest fan) being a fantastic series. Huge characters versus huge ideas that managed to be fun as well.<br /><br />And Crisis - what's not to love?!Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.com